Talk:"Spirit World Gone Wild"/@comment-25649882-20141211020005/@comment-17760674-20141211022021

2-3 WGs per 200 HP on 201F? O______o that's pretty darn lucky

your case with the SWG isn't at the same level of luckiness since some people experience the same thing or even better, but it's also relatively lucky compared to what seems to be the vast majority that struggles with meeting any SWG at all

And... yasushi works on math. Speculative math since we don't know the trigger rates, but still math since we do know the boost and reduce %s. Reducers are undoubtedly better in most scenarios because you're not going to be able to boost your attack to 160k+ as often as you'll be able to reduce the WG's defense down to 80k or below, for example (assuming you do have reducers and boosters to begin with).

For example, if you have 5 daemons with 24% for their skill and 90000 attack before skills activate (possible with 5x daemons with 15k attack [75k base] that are of the same type and that have type advantage):

All boosters means that 3 procs (+72%) will get you to 144k attack.

All reducers means that 3 procs (-72%) will bring Utagawa down to 45k defense and Dojigiri to 46k defense.

If you have weaker daemons--let's say you have 5 daemons with 10k attack each, bringing you to to 60k attack against a WG with which you have type advantage, and 24% each:

All boosters means that if all of your daemons proc (+120%), then you'll get 120k attack. Yes, that's if all of your daemons proc. It is literally impossible for 5x 10k daemons with 24% booster skills to win against SWG.

All reducers means that if just 3 of your daemons proc (-72%, like earlier), then Utagawa will be down to 45k defense and Dojigiri down to 46k defense. That means that it is possible for 5x 10k daemons with 24% reducer skills to win against SWG. The probability of that happening depends on the skill trigger rates, which people have mixed opinions on, but the fact is that it is technically possible, unlike having 5x 10k daemons with 24% boost.