Talk:Ibaraki Doji/@comment-24848474-20141202104324/@comment-14463510-20141202212040

Pretty sure Rodan + Ibaraki was never the problem.

Hansel + Gretel was.

In a battle, if both of them proc, you need at least 4 procs on your defense just to counter the 2 procs that they got.

(34% buff from Gretel, 34% debuff from Hansel + the greatly boost from their Chain + 15% attack due to Phantom v. Anima)

Ibaraki just makes it more annoying, although there are other options: Titania [Werewolf], Dragon God, Ibaraki [ANNV]