User blog:SolarMist/Conquest: 1 AS to 2 DS ratio

(Please forgive me if there's already a place with a bunch of examples like this. I didn't see any, but this wikia is pretty big, so I could have missed it pretty easily.)

Every conquest event, I see a bunch of people were asking why the 1 AS to 2 DS ratio matters so much.

First, DS increases 2 times faster than AS. Second... well, I'm just going to dump a bunch of examples on you.

This guide (which is a really nice guide on solo conquest events, by the way; it's a little outdated and contains a bunch of stuff specific to the "Demon King Rises!" event, but the mechanical aspects seem to still be the same) contains these two pictures (section IV: Cost to summon daemons):

http://i.imgur.com/pq9KE0G.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JRCTcaf.jpg

Let's say you have a conquest team that requires 300 spirit, and you have 300 points to allocate into AS and DS. (in other words, you have enough points to launch exactly one full attack with your team; I decided to do this for convenience, so that's why a lot of the numbers seem to line up and cancel each other out in very convenient ways lol)

1:1 = 150 AS, 150 DS
Remember, this theoretical team needs 300 spirit total.

Going by the first image (spirit "required"), you'll need 150 AS and 150 DS ready.

(The maths for AS:

(150 AS / [150 AS + 150 DS]) * 300 spirit cost = (150/300)*300 = 150 AS needed

DS uses the same formula as AS, except the numerator of the first term is the max DS, of course. Since DS is the same as AS in this case, 150 DS is needed as well.)

When you fight the raging monster, 75 AS and 75 DS will be removed (going by the second image).

(The formula for the "removed" spirit is pretty much the "required" spirit divided by 2.)

You'll be left with 75 AS and 75 DS. Your DS will fill up in 37.5 minutes, but your AS will take 75 minutes to fill up again.

1:1.5 = 120 AS, 240 DS
Spirit "required": 120 AS and 180 DS ready.

(The maths for AS:

(120 AS / [120 AS + 180 DS]) * 300 spirit cost = (120/300)*300 = 120 AS needed

The maths for DS:

(180 DS / [120 AS + 180 DS]) * 300 spirit cost = (180/300)*300 = 180 AS needed )

When you fight the raging monster, 60 AS and 90 DS will be removed.

You'll be left with 60 AS and 90 DS. Your DS will fill up in 45 minutes, but your AS will take 60 minutes to fill up again.

1:2 = 100 AS, 200 DS
Spirit "required": 100 AS and 200 DS ready.

(The maths for AS:

(100 AS / [100 AS + 200 DS]) * 300 spirit cost = (100/300)*300 = 100 AS needed

The maths for DS:

(200 DS / [100 AS + 200 DS]) * 300 spirit cost = (200/300)*300 = 200 AS needed )

When you fight the raging monster, 50 AS and 100 DS will be removed.

You'll be left with 50 AS and 100 DS. Your DS will fill up in 50 minutes, and your AS will also fill up in 50 minutes.

1:2.5 = 86 AS, 214 DS
(unfortunately, this one didn't come out to have whole numbers, so I had to round)

Spirit "required": 86 AS and 214 DS ready.

(The maths for AS:

(86 AS / [86 AS + 214 DS]) * 300 spirit cost = (86/300)*300 = 86 AS needed

The maths for DS:

(214 DS / [86 AS + 214 DS]) * 300 spirit cost = (214/300)*300 = 214 AS needed )

When you fight the raging monster, 43 AS and 107 DS will be removed.

You'll be left with 43 AS and 107 DS. Your DS will fill up in 53.5 minutes, but your AS will fill up in 43 minutes.

So in this case, you're waiting for your DS to regenerate rather than your AS; this example is supposed to show why you should not have too much DS. It's better to have too much DS than too much AS, though. (Plus, having surplus DS can provide a nice buffer in case you are a magnet for stray attackers and cannot defend yourself.)

And now for a table that summarizes everything so that you can see direct comparisons more easily.

Notes:
 * This is still using the theoretical 300 spirit team and the 300 points available to allocate into AS and DS.
 * The "Max AS and DS" and "AS and DS required" columns are identical because of the numbers I chose. They would not be identical if the number of points to allocate was different from the number of spirit needed for the conquest team. I'm too braindead to use different numbers. Sorry.