Talk:Otomo no Miyuki/@comment-85.220.44.189-20130929195348/@comment-9583839-20130929221651

That depends on your top daemons' total atk. His def is 54124 when his skill triggers (which is very often). My team uses 150 spirit though, if you are interested. I can beat him (with skill) if at least one of my daemons' skill triggers.