Talk:"Neverending Christmas"/@comment-24189229-20131227025127/@comment-17760674-20131227033312

Farming with silver, right? You're going to need a LOT of silver if you want Pipe Fox. (something like several tens of millions, I think) You should start farming at the monster that you cannot beat with the team that requires 20 AS and 31 DS. Maths below the line if you're curious. This took me 30 minutes, no joke; I started typing this 7 minutes after the OP posted lol

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The "Let go" button appears after 10 minutes, which means that 10 AS and 20 DS will regenerate while you wait for the button to appear. (1 AS per minute and 1 DS per 30 seconds)

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure of the reasoning behind what I did, but it works. I think. xD; Please feel free to explain the reasoning if you can follow my maths ;A; And feel free to point out inaccuracies in calculations and methods; this is the first time I'm trying to calculate something like this without using a 1:2 spirit ratio.

The guide I'm using for some of the formulas is this one. I'll link to it again at the bottom of the post.

174 AS + 271 DS = 445 total

174/445 = asratio (which is ~ 0.39)

271/445 = dsratio (which is ~ 0.61)

AS ratio is not a perfect 1:2 and leans towards AS, so focus on AS removed = 10 (here, same as AS regenerated)

Make sure to check that the DS removed is less than or equal to 20

regentotal should be less than or equal to 30 (because the 10 AS and 20 DS regenerated during the 10 min wait period = 30 total regenerated spirit)

10 AS removed = asratio * regentotal

therefore, 10 / asratio = regentotal ~ 25.5 regenerated spirit total (using decimals for calculation purposes, not practical purposes lol)

25.5 total regenerated spirit - 10 AS removed = 15.5 DS removed

yes, that's within the 20 DS regenerated range, so hopefully this works

10 AS removed * 2 = 20 AS required

15.5 DS removed * 2 = 31 DS required

If you test this with the formulas given in Section IV of this guide (it's a little outdated, but the basic mechanics appear to remain the same, including Section IV's formulas), it should work.

Half of 20 AS = 10 AS, which will regenerate in the 10 minute wait.

Half of 31 DS = 15.5 DS, and since 20 DS regenerates in that 10 minute wait, the DS will be fine.